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Runes Reforged Analysis, first impressions

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https://imgur.com/a/KakOd All Images First look at Runes Reforged Nothing is concrete yet, keep in mind this is still in the works Once the update is released i can bury myself to work out the strongest builds
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Muhannad Al-Ahmad (1 year ago)
is there a chance to post a new build/runes for Teemo according to the new Rune Reforged changes? i have asked you inside your lolking guide and i hope i can get an answer here :D sticky i know but u rocks and i wont play lol after this new system before i get ur updates coz i main Teemo :D nice and cute ending btw :D
Muhannad Al-Ahmad (1 year ago)
IcyPhoenix yooooo thx a bunch man!! time for a mathematic course :D
IcyPhoenix (1 year ago)
+Muhannad Al-Ahmad here you go boss https://youtu.be/lnpYllsZQQQ
Steven Buck (1 year ago)
IcyPhoenix! Can you please review the new runes that are out and advise which are best for Teemo? I followed your last guides for Nuclear and On-hit Teemo and destroyyyed with them. Now I can't seem to do anything! New thunderlords is too slow for AS and although the damage is great, it means I can't weave in autos. Similarly, the precision tree leaves me too weak health-wise and AP-wise. I don't want to simply go tanky runes unless I am going Tankmo, so I need your expert guidance as to what are the best ones to use for all the Teemo builds. Please, I love him! :(
IcyPhoenix (1 year ago)
+Steven Buck yeah buddy. It’s cool how people from so many diff countries comment talk. Thanks for commenting 👍 cheers from Canada!
Steven Buck (1 year ago)
IcyPhoenix Oh I should've said I never played Teemo support in ranked, so no I am gold, but versing probably mostly silver players in norms with that build. So you can get away with TP and being underlevelled because most players in that skill range have no idea what they're doing haha. If I was playing Teemo seriously, I would go top lane for ranked. Thanks for the replies and look forward to your vids man! Best wishes from NZ! :)
IcyPhoenix (1 year ago)
+Steven Buck nah a lot of that is wrong imo. If you ever went teleport as support you lose lane at equal skill. You need exhaust or ignite. e max was never viable bot lane because you get outranged by every adc which is why teemo was never played as an adc but top lane where he can bully mele champs. That’s why teemo is terrible mid and loses to most ranged matchups top. He gets out ranged. Q has 680 range so that’s the only viable option when out ranged. Magic pen removal is a huge buff because we lost 7.8 pen but enemies lost 12 to 27 MR from runes. Every AP champ is doing more dmg now and magic pen got buffed while removing magic resist runes. Big buffs. A support can never be a split pusher due to level disadvantage and gold disadvantage. I think a proper viable teemo support takes exhaust or ignite. Maxes Q and peels when adc gets engaged or pokes if possible. Then when 6 hits teemo gets a huge power spike because shrooms reck low HP bot laners and lots of ganks happen where shrooms turn kills around.
Steven Buck (1 year ago)
IcyPhoenix I really wish I could make videos lol, I would do a video on Blitzcrank so fast haha. The internet in New Zealand sucks, so I have to use my internet cafe and obviously can't set up a recorder there. Some champs that would be cool that I use would be (if you ever make a video on them): Support Veigar, Support Anivia, Kamikaze Sion, AS Bruiser Braum, Singed and AD On-hit Thresh. If you had any ideas for those, would be appreciated. Otherwise I will just have to figure them out through trial and error haha and many annoyed teams. :P
Steven Buck (1 year ago)
IcyPhoenix I suppose you can go Q max, but then what Keystone and paths for support Teemo? The comet? Then you give up that reliable AS for a bit more poke, especially now that it seems mana runs out quicker. And that 1% crit chance RIP. I feel like it went from being able to go AS+damage+some survivability in season 7, to choosing one of those 3 in season 8, and then building into a second strength with items, but you can't have all three. I was playing support Teemo as a sit in bot bush, poke champ. Proc thunderlords and force out of lane. TP back if I get low, and surprise enemy adc. By the time we leave lane, I am fed on kills or the enemy adc is so far behind that they die easily. Then I take over a third of the map with shrooms and am an immovable split pusher. But now with the extra mana pen gone from masteries, and the choice between damage or sustainable AS, it really feels like support Teemo at least will now never work.
Danyel (1 year ago)
I really appreciate your videos. They are very informative. Im sure they take forever to make and that's why there are only a few. But they're great. keep up the good work.
IcyPhoenix (1 year ago)
+Danyel thanks for the comment. Yea I have been working on a new one but there is so much new info so it’s taking me longer then I would like. Hoping another day or 2 max. New runes are really fun.
Tory Wanick (1 year ago)
Rito, made last hitting give plus 5 dmg to all champs against lane monsters like the masteries. Mages gained about 5 Mgc Pen due to the changes and all gained HP per lvl or flat HP
Matt'sGaming Cave (1 year ago)
Riot is changing everyones base stats. So the base starts are about = to the current stats with runes.
IcyPhoenix (1 year ago)
18% ATk speed *
IcyPhoenix (1 year ago)
Matt'sGaming Cave nobody uses those runes. They are pretty bad at the moment. Cloth armor is 15 armor and the rune is 5 armor which is really really little. For example 18% rune is worth close to 500 gold. That 5 armor is worth 100 gold. And you have to chose between 5 armor OR 5 MR. So if only works vs half the enemies whereas the offensive runes work vs everyone
Matt'sGaming Cave (1 year ago)
There are 3 runes that give you Armor and MR. 2 are base stats with a 5% increase to your current MR and armor when you heal for 20 hp. And one that gives you 8armor and mr + 5% of both. Im hyped to see what we will get out of season 8.
IcyPhoenix (1 year ago)
+Matt'sGaming Cave yup I’ve been on PBE for a week testing builds and stats etc. It’s very snowbally. Mages have no armor but gained HP. Teemo gained HP and no armor so has to lane vs riven pantheon etc w less armor. And everybody has no MR runes while magic pen got buffed. So far AP seems significantly stronger then on hit
Animop Animop (1 year ago)
i really adore and love your channel please keep it up and thanks
IcyPhoenix (1 year ago)
+Animop Animop thx thx. Yea once I get back from vacation w family I’ll keep working on videos. I got a bunch already started, just gotta finish them
reformed naruto (1 year ago)
Is teemo a good choice to climb outta silver ? I'm hardstruck (lol)
IcyPhoenix (1 year ago)
yes he is, he is a very strong laner and at silver everyone rage quits the second you lose lane they also dont know how to recover when behind
FuzzyWuzzyTeeto (1 year ago)
So over all, which paths do you feel will be best. That was alot of numbers thrown out.
MrDeadlifter (1 year ago)
I am very appreciative of your content! I play full ap teemo with TLD, so I guess electrocute trumps arcane comets eh
IcyPhoenix (1 year ago)
No dont think Electorcute will be really high burst on a very long cooldown, only useful if you can assassin 100-0 someone Te strongest build for 1 shotting people is Gunblade > Sorc Void Staff > Lichbane This isnt a very viable build, because there are so many counters to bursty assassins, such as shields, steraks, maw, banshees etc Comet will be much more reliable and stronger
he has walls (1 year ago)
Cant wait to oneshot a adc with the devil himsef with one shroom...
IcyPhoenix (1 year ago)
+Raphael Wambacher comet of death!
Davi Long (1 year ago)
Is this a second upload?
IcyPhoenix (1 year ago)
+David Long had an error and ended up reuloading an hour later 😭😭
Frederik kjær (1 year ago)
As allways you make great videos :) Thank you for týour insight and your daughter (i assume?) needs a Teemo teddybear so she can start loving our lord and savior :D
IcyPhoenix (1 year ago)
+Frederik kjær hha yea we tried to find her one ☝️
Noah Dickens (1 year ago)
Not trying to say anything rude or offend you, but I honestly thought you were black before I saw the facecam :/ (Ps: Ive been watching your vids for about 4 months)
IcyPhoenix (1 year ago)
lol not offended, thats funny
Xerathiel vi Darquise (1 year ago)
Finally <3, looking forward to rune release patch
Timothy Krzywonski (1 year ago)
Picking a tree gives raw stats though. You cherry pick ratios. I mean where's the full annie tibbers aura for someone to sit in? Brand passive ratio?
Timothy Krzywonski (1 year ago)
How so? Going resolve means you 70 flat health once you unlock a secondary tree; that's like 100 gold, and I don't see it listed anywhere.
IcyPhoenix (1 year ago)
+Timothy Krzywonski all factored in
eDGaR LoRa (1 year ago)
Hi man, nice video, I wonder if you are going to do an analysis of the new system for teemo.
IcyPhoenix (1 year ago)
+eDGaR LoRa yea I will once we have concrete stats when the patch comes out mid November so
Oncus2 (1 year ago)
Thanks for the early analysis. Hopefully you will do one when the runes are released as well. Personally I was very hyped about runes in the early tease. But lately as I see more of them, I am liking them less and less. Especially do not late infinite scaling runes.
IcyPhoenix (1 year ago)
+Oncus2 I’m hopeful it will be worked out by then. Lots of time still
Matt Moe (1 year ago)
So what you're saying is just play ad assassins?
IcyPhoenix (1 year ago)
+Matt Moe right now yes. But things will change for sure before then. Just trying to get a “feel” for the general direction before stuff gets released
hEljAk :D (1 year ago)
Thx 4 the math!!!
AgravainX (1 year ago)
What's yasuo going to take???
Isaac Clarke (1 year ago)
I dont think it was necessary to reupload the video because of that 500% error thing. Although I wont complain. Great video as always.
IcyPhoenix (1 year ago)
+Isaac Clarke perfectionist sorry. Was tilted whole evening while watching tv with wife when I found out I made an error haha
Paulo Jorge (1 year ago)
godlike, love form brazil !
Lorenzo Dal Molin (1 year ago)
riot will buff base stats as far as i know i believe they already announced that
IcyPhoenix (1 year ago)
Yes thats what i heard too Couldnt find it from a google search though Someone said they would reduce base MR from 30 to 26
Rasmus Martinsen (1 year ago)
nice video
T1v2 (1 year ago)
Love the ending bro <3 Im always looking forward your content. Thx!
Simon Lundsted Hurup (1 year ago)
Please make a new teemo guide when the patch hits live servers. Teemo forever!
IcyPhoenix (1 year ago)
I cant wait for patch to go live, to start working out builds with concrete numbers, right now things still change way too much to be able to get any proper numbers As soon as its out, i will be crunching numbers for Teemo
Gabriel Goliszewski (1 year ago)
you have a brilliant future with the channel i hope you keep perseverant and doing a great work. thanks and love your vids. much love from Argentina
IcyPhoenix (1 year ago)
Thanks Che! saludos!
iLov3Shibas (1 year ago)
iLov3Shibas (1 year ago)
"Zed will deal true dmg... good thing they removed armor runes" ahahaha, what a great and informative video!
IcyPhoenix (1 year ago)
supposedly they will be adding 5 base armor to all champs is wht i heard But i cant find anything official from a google search, but i dont doubt that
DerTolleEsel (1 year ago)
nice video, i really liked the math =)
Konstantin Stoychev (1 year ago)
You should make more videos, they're great. I love the analysis.
Luke Shpeewalker (1 year ago)
Oh what happened to the original? Whatever here's my comment from before: "Love these informational videos! Thanks for these! <3"
IcyPhoenix (1 year ago)
Sorry there was an error and had to re upload :-( Thanks for reposting !
John Smith (1 year ago)
Soo cool.thx
TheRuinedStar (1 year ago)
She dont like teemo XDDD
IcyPhoenix (1 year ago)
she secretly loves teemo
paxster88 (1 year ago)
Great video man. Love the detail that you put in and not just say "Oh this is so broken!!" like other lol YouTuber do.
IcyPhoenix (1 year ago)
Sebastián Valenzuela (1 year ago)
Very good Info, also that ending so cute
Testin' Plasma (1 year ago)
nice video
LifenKnight 6732 (1 year ago)
did you remove this video for a moment
IcyPhoenix (1 year ago)
yup :-( errors suck
LifenKnight 6732 (1 year ago)
:( but them views.
IcyPhoenix (1 year ago)
yea sorry, its back up
LifenKnight 6732 (1 year ago)
by the way how good do you think Vlad would do, if he uses all of the scaling health and AP Runes, becuase he should be able to have infinity scaling health and AP, thanks to grasp of the undying, overgrowth, eyeball collection and gathering storm can't wait to see Infinite scaling Vlad in action using, grasp, overgrowth, Ult hat and Gathering storm.
blommeeee (1 year ago)
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IcyPhoenix (1 year ago)
Oh i have ideas mostly about itemization and gameplay etc not too much on new masteries yet just wanted to get a "feel" for where we were headed last time there was a huge patch like this, i didnt read up before hand and felt lost the whole first week with the changes
LifenKnight 6732 (1 year ago)
yeah good point. but that means it will be hard to make videos until the new season hits and that might be a while for before that all comes out, atleast i have time to get gold before the season ends
IcyPhoenix (1 year ago)
Lol sounds pretty gross, but im not gonna go that indepth into any math till i have concrete numbers from the patch going live I tried that once before, and editing everytime there was a change on test servers was a nightmare and waste of time It def sounds interesting, pretty excited for all the new combinations we can come up with
Tory Wanick (1 year ago)
Yessss I've been needing this ! Over analysis of league is my addiction br I'm too bad at math

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