+John Oliver they thing is though why do those characters act and look and even display the child ages. And you are comparing apples to oranges. People who play GTA V don't usually masturbate when killing civilians, and the game punishes you for doing so. Furthermore that's not the point of the game and people don't play the game primarily to kill civilians and to enact their murderous fantasies
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"you know it's something confusing. If they don't find example, a child they saw on TV attractive, but then they draw the sane child in loli form and then you know do their thing to it. What does that make them?"
a lolicon, because they are not sexually attracted to a real child, as far as we can determine based on the scenario you described. but they *are* sexually attracted to the drawing they made, which is what makes them a lolicon.
just because citizens exist in real life doesnt mean you are a psychopath for enjoying the act of killing them in GTA 5.
+John Oliver you know it's something confusing. If they don't find example, a child they saw on TV attractive, but then they draw the sane child in loli form and then you know do their thing to it. What does that make them?
Loli isn't short for lolicon, it's short for Lolita. It's from a book called _Lolita_ and it's about a grown man and a 12 yo girl in a relationship. There is also a movie. It is also not Japanese, it's western. So wtf europe?
Anime is anime, it’s in a television. Loli refers to any age with child like looks. Liking them such as saying “she’s so cute.” Is not sexual. Such as many adults find real life child cute. Are they pedophiles? Nope. So before you make a video generating the ways anime viewers could like a loli please understand the differences between people who watch loli hentai and regular ole anime with lolis in them. SUCK A DICK
"Anime is anime, it’s in a television"
eh, it being on television doesnt have any real influence over whether or not its "good" or not.
"Liking them such as saying “she’s so cute.” Is not sexual"
obviously, but lolicon is so intensely reviled that anything even adjacent to it is considered a mortal sin. so even just thinking lolis are cute (atleast if you're a male), your basically the second worst human being on the planet. still, its better than actually being sexually attracted to lolis though, since theres a small chance the SJWs wont behead you in the public square when they rise to power. but us pseudo-pedophiles are gonna have our guts strewn about the power lines for decoration.
"but in canada fictional child porn is just as much illegal as real child porn"
thats pretty insane if you make pretty much any comparable analogy to that. saying that any fictional version of anything should be regarded as equally harmful as than real world equivalent is pretty insane.
i could atleast understand how people could see lolicon as being very similarly immoral, but we shouldnt base our laws on morality alone. thats would be dogmatic, tantamount to something like Sharia law.
"Any way I suppose the point has been made, so good luck with whatever you do"
thanks, same to you. ill just continue no-lifeing this, and a few other video's, comment sections. like a true degenerate.
Ok well that's fair enough. Tbh I also enjoy making fun of flat earthers and the like. And I suppose it isn't technically self incriminating to you but in canada fictional child porn is just as much illegal as real child porn, which is really stupid because fictional murder isn't illegal. Any way I suppose the point has been made, so good luck with whatever you do
"I mean Idgaf, but like, are you not embarrassed"
not when it comes to the uninformed opinions of the average anon in the [inter website name here] forum/comment section. id care more (to the point where it might effect how i think/behave) if it was someone personally close to me giving their opinion about my interest in child-like cartoon characters.
but the few people i consider very close to me would likely either not care, or mostly understand that its not a real problem worth worrying about.
if someone has a problem with the fiction i indulge in to the point where it makes them dislike me as a person, well, i wouldnt consider them a person worth caring that much about.
"And You low key were doing that shit"
criminalizing myself? well seeing as how its not a crime to be a pedophile, much less a lolicon, then i dont see how i was doing that at all. criminalizing (or actually self-incriminating) means you are admitting to a crime, which im not, because being a pedophile isnt a crime here in the good ol US of A.
"It was a while ago tho, like 2 years from the looks of it, but you're ALL OVER this comment section announcing it"
its a hobby of mine, i love talking about this topic, and some others, like religion and otehr crazy beliefs like the flat earth "theory". its fun to tell people they're wrong and attempt to convince them to agree with me.
debating is just entertainment to me, like playing a videogame or watching youtube.
"I'm just saying like if I were you I would prefer to keep it a secret"
nah, i like talking with people about it.
"As long as you don't touch kids for your whole life, then wouldn't you be better off just being a lolicon privately"
why not publicly? i can be a lolicon in "public" *and* still never abuse any children.
"i am QUITE sure that your image ain't gonna last if you tell people"
being a lolicon is part of the image i present to people online. its not like i need to represent anyone else with my youtube profile, so i can just be who i want others to see me as. just like what everyone else is doing. being a lolicon online, to me, is little different than being an atheist online. sure "most" people will dislike me for it, but that just leads to potentially interesting conversations. though mostly it just leads to one-sided flame-wars with them telling me to kill myself and me telling them they are being overemotional children (ironically). but still, its worth it for the entertainment value.
I mean Idgaf, but like, are you not embarrassed. And You low key were doing that shit. It was a while ago tho, like 2 years from the looks of it, but you're ALL OVER this comment section announcing it. I'm just saying like if I were you I would prefer to keep it a secret. As long as you don't touch kids for your whole life, then wouldn't you be better off just being a lolicon privately. i am QUITE sure that your image ain't gonna last if you tell people
"Why are you going around in the comments criminalizing yourself bruh"
im literally not.
"why you so open about it?"
because theres not much reason to keep the fact that im sexually attracted to fictional children a secret through my pseudo-anonymous internet personality. would you prefer that i roam about the internet, and real life, never letting anyone know that im sexually attracted to fictional child-like characters?
more importantly, would you prefer that a real life pedophile never let you know that they are a real life pedophile even after you hire them to babysit your kids?
people with ideas and preferences that you dislike are doing you a service by letting you know who they are and what they are about, and you do them a service by letting them speak. its a win-win.
"i am a girl is it okay to watch hentai lolicon like shoujo ramune?"
"okay" depends on who you ask, so its not a good moral metric, but it does matter if you are looking for the approval of those around you. as for if its a problem to watch it... nope, not even if you're sexually attracted to them. its not an actual problem thats worth worrying about.
"if this comment gets 25 likes it means it is okay for me to watch it"
Better to give people a way out with anime then with real little girls. People are against people who like lollies because it makes them feel good about themselves like everyone does not have bones in there closet. It's anime..... so get over it.
"Jacking off to a child, or a child like person. That's gross"
its fine if you feel that way, you dont have to masturbate to small fictional children.
but i will, because nothing gets me hotter under the collar than nonexistent underdeveloped genitalia.
"as long as they don't do something else illegal"
lolicon isnt, itself, illegal. it can be criminalized on a case-by-case basis if it fails the Miller Test for obscenity; a test that can make ANY visual art form a criminal offense to posses.
shreks wife as long as they don't do something else illegal I can care less what they do with their lives. I like anime I don't necessarily like loli anime but I like anime. Some of the anime has cute little girls whose overly sexualized in it. I'm not necessarily watching anime because of that but at the same time I don't want people to think that "this guy's a pedophile because he's watching that".
Sorry for liking anime, in real life I would never consider even thinking about a real 5 year old. Like I'm still confused how you are a pedo for liking things that are not real. Like if that's the case then we're is the boundary between pedos and people who just like action. I would never harrase a women let alone a child. For example if a girl came up to me in the middle of the night drunk but naked and was horny as fuck. I would help her not take advantage. Sorry for annoying anyone. 😐
One other thing. I'll kind of explain why lolis are a thing.
Humans are programmed to not be attracted to children (unless they're a pedophile--which is not meant to happen) based on characteristics that trigger our brains to see children as impossible to be attractive: behavior, physical build, facial proportions. Loli girls, though, despite appearing young, do not have all these characteristics that any prepubescent human girl would.
- Loli and adult female body proportions are interchangeable, since they generally have minor curves, as do many adult anime girls
- All anime characters have ridiculous face proportions
- Loli's often (not always, but often) behave like adults
Because of this, the line between child and loli is blurred.
(Also, a loli isnt necessarily a young girl. Often it is an adult who looks very young)
"but usually they aren't actually young children"
most of the anime i watch that is "loli-centric" is about girls who are canonically under the age of 18.
heres a list of loli anime that im currently trying to get through.
and Blend S
also loli anime ive gotten atleast most of the way through would include
Kodomo no Jikan
Ro kyu Bu
Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma Illya
No Game No life
atleast one of the main characters in each of these anime are or look the same age as an elementary school student. id argue that most underage looking characters in anime are actually underage canonically.
"Loli girls, though, despite appearing young, do not have all these characteristics that any prepubescent human girl would"
looks pretty young to me.
"Also, a loli isnt necessarily a young girl. Often it is an adult who looks very young"
people use the term to mean many different things, even clothing styles, disregarding who is even wearing the clothes.
Weirdo? Yes sir, I'm a weirdo alright.
Pedo? No thanks.
It's the same reason why i enjoy beating people's skulls in in Hotline Miami but absolutely despise any violence in real life. Fiction ≠ Reality.
I'd also like to debunk the "the attraction comes from somewhere inside you" phrase here. It doesn't prove anything. It's just a meaningless sentence. What do you mean? Do you think i'm a pedo? Do you think i'm not? What does "somewhere inside you" mean? How much do you think this "something inside me" affects me in real life?
For me it just feels like a way of saying "you're a pedo" but when called out on it, you can say "well i *technically* didn't call you a pedo". Be straightforward with your arguments, people. Write a wall of text if you need to. Just don't do shit like this.
Yeah, that's true. You do need to be defensive to defend something, after all.
And hah, I guess that's right. I usually only get to a point where I call them out on their backpedaling with people who are reasonable to *some* degree, but these are few far and between. I usually don't even try to continue discussions on lolis with the "leeeeee ure pedo" kind of people simply because I know I won't achieve anything.
"And sorry if I sounded a bit defensive there"
not a problem, alot of people could describe what i do as "being defensive". but its kinda hard (impossible) to defend something without being defensive. saying someone is being "defensive" isnt really invalidating anything they are saying... at all.
"then backpedaling when needed"
id almost rather they backpedal, instead i tend to get people who dig in even more but just simplify their opinion to "i think its wrong so kys". its not an opinion thats worth caring about, but for alot of anti-lolicons its the core, and sometimes the the sole, tenet of their relig- position.
Yeah, i guess that could be it. And sorry if I sounded a bit defensive there. I'm just tired of people throwing around phrases that can be interpreted in many different ways then backpedaling when needed.
i came to GTA 5 to drive around like a maniac and kill cops for 30 minutes, not deal with Michael's family issues. i dont give a shit about his life, i just want to drive and shoot things, not watch Trevor be the worst person on earth to the point where i want him to die permanently.
but hey, thats just me.
Lolis aren’t always children. Some lolis are 1000 years old. A loli is a character that looks and sounds like a child. Also not all lolis are female. I’m personally not a lolicon but as a lover of anime I felt the desire to correct this video. I love Onision as a YouTuber but sometimes(not always though) his research is far from thorough.
This is also something people are angry about the sex dolls that are like small girls. Well, in my opinion, fuck it. I’d rather have the local pedophile having orgies with his 20 child sec dolls then needing to satisfy his urge by kidnapping, raping, and killing my child because he knows he can’t satisfy his needs and get away with it by leaving the kid alive.... in my opinion. Who TF cares!!!!!! Watch what you want to watch, fuck what you want to fuck. As long as you don’t hurt people or cause harm to your surroundings do whatever you want. Fucking hate all these dipshits who act like people can’t be attracted to things they aren’t attracted to. I think girls who are obese are disgusting. Yet there are men who will feed and fuck their fat roles and absolutely get off on it. Who am I to say it’s wrong. So In the end. Porn is porn. Dolls are dolls. And no, there isn’t a “slippery slope” if so then I’d be having hardcore gangbang bukakes every other day.... which I’ve never been apart of in real life... you dudes are fucking idiots. People who slam other people’s sexuality are the exact people confused as hell and insecure about their own. Just saying. Says a lot about you.
I just watched some ASMR videos and then a anime one appeared so I watched it and then I click my way through some more videos untill I landed on a Loli ASMR ear licking video.... I enjoyed it but I didn't know that those were like 6 year olds
Lolis and Shotas in my opinion are only appropriate for anime that does not involve them being cum dumpsters getting raped or being
Manipulated to. I agree such characters do not exsist in real life but honestly, future laws will prohibit such and will brand it not good. I wouldnt consider lolis legal under the circumstances that its not hentai but everything else under that would good imo.
Look at Monogatari, that show is the best ive seen so far. Its ecchi I know, but its a very small factor inseries focusing on art, character development and the canon storyline. Charcters like Shinobu, Karen, Tsuki, Yotsugi, Nadeko and Hachikuji are very colourful in terms of art and backstory. There are a few suggestive scenes such as the bathing scenes and the toothbrush scene are merely fanservice throwaways that is overshadowed by everything else.
To answer the qquestion posed by the title of this video. Yes. Yes it does make you a paedophile. And that's okay. If you dont think so, you're probably American or Russian. 99% of the rest of the world doesn't really care either way or is supportive. For instance, there are no laws against people's sexual orientation in Germany, where I am from. you cant help what or who you are attracted to and we are fully aware of that.
course not, we cant guarantee that all 10 year olds can handle a non-platonic relationship with an adult, thus it has to remain a criminal act to attempt to do so. untill we have a much better system of protecting children from harm by adults, these laws have to remain in place. ofcourse they should be revised and improved if and when its necessary, as should all laws.
The way i see it, its just lines and colors put together. Matters not what the characters age, height, or size is. If you "like" a character, and it just so happens to be small and actually young, is there a problem? Its not like you see humans in the same light. Now if those characters were to suddenly materialize...Well, then an in-depth discussion needs to happen on what to do LOL
True. But to be fair, a lot of hentai/anime have "underage" girls (I use quotes because they look no where near that age), who have fully formed, giant breasts, curves, and are extremely developed. So basically if you find cartoon characters like Aira (or whatever her name is) from onichichi, that's pretty different compared to a fuckin 7 year old child or some shit. Basically, if they look under 16, NOT GOOD!!!
or Mimi Usa from Kodomo no Jikan or Airi Kashii from Ro-Kyu-Bu. without knowledge of the characters someone could mistake them for 16 or 18 year old characters. which is why age is irrelevant when arguing about the legality or ethics of lolicon.
Applying a word "children" to fictional character that mostly doesn't represent real person in both visual/beahvioral way is pretty dumb. I guess it could be a case if the character has realistic shape and that's the reason why a person is attracted to the character though, well...you rarely see such a character in popular "moe" stuff.
Applying a word "car" to fictional vehicle that mostly doesn't
represent real cars in both visual/beahvioral way is pretty dumb. I guess it could be a case if the vehicle has realistic shape and that's the reason why a person likes the vehicle though,
well...you rarely see such a vehicle in popular "car anime" stuff.
"Not disrespecting you but are you an adult?"
yep. why would that question be disrespectful? oh, because of the insinuation that that im not mature if im into lolicon. dont worry, i wont take that question as an insult on my character.
"I will be turning 18 in a couple of days and I decided to stop because I feel like it was ruining my mental health"
if thats what you believe then do what you think is best for you personally and if it helps then great. just be sure you are actually fixing the issue rather than just running away from it, because it wont necessarily go away just because you put distance between you and it. just some sagely (atleast i like to think so) advice from someone who happens to be on the other side of the fence.
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