Part 3 of The Secret Life of the Lolita, exploring the many different substyles of lolita seen throughout the world.
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I've been a fan of Lolita for a really long time, and seeing as today I ordered my very first Lolita dress (the seawinds whirring op by dear Celine) I wanted to rewatch this series. It's just as funny as I remember it! Thank you Deerstalker for this awesome video series :-)
Ero Lolitias still wear undergarments, right? Some of the pics I've seen on the Internet show Lolitias with skirts WAY too small to be hiding a pair of bloomers.
Not being perverted. I just really respect your fashion's emphasis on modesty (great message for girls) and I'd hate to see it contradicted or ruined. Frankly, crouchless garter belts don't seem like something a Lolitia would invest in.
So you mean no undies instead of no bloomers? No, I highly doubt they're is any lolita, not even ero, who does that. Keep in mind that the bloomers you see lolita wear are not their ACTUAL underwear. The blouse and bloomers go on top of your regular underwear. So even IF an ero lolita would have no room for bloomers (doubt it, it's not hard to get a hold of short bloomers), she wouldn't go commando. I'd figure in that case she'd even wear safety shorts as to not flash her underwear if her skirt goes haywire.
Do keep in mind that ero not is an easy substyle to pull off correctly. It's likely that not all pictures you've seen are 'proper' ero lolitas. Some pics get the tag ero because certain elements look lolitalike, and there are always those few who use ero as an excuse to call an outfit with a miniskirt a lolita coord. Mana Sama, creator of Moi Même Moitié, has a few coords that are the perfect example of ero lolita done right.
+fleshmaidengirl So do some Ero Lolitas actually go commando (no undies)? Does the variation still require proper undies? The pics I've seen would suggest otherwise.
Look, if you want to free bird or whatever the term is, that's fine. It's your own choice. But then why invest in and call yourself a member of a fashion that focuses on modesty?
I know it must seem weird to hear someone (much less a guy) asking about this, but I'm honestly still trying to understand the Japanese and their views of sexuality and stuff. That's partially the reason I found this fashion trend to be refreshing.
As far as I know, ero lolitas indeed show a bit more skin (shorter skirt, maybe a bit of cleavage) and/or their coord consists of more 'fetishy' items like pvc pieces, corsets, visible garters, etc ... Everyone has their own definition but generally it's agreed that even ero lolitas shouldn't have skirts that are too short because as you said, it would lose too much of the lolita aesthetic. The ''best' ero lolitas out there usually wear skirts that are only a few inches shorter than regular lolitas. So yes, they can still wear bloomers in that case.
:/ What is with this channel's OBSESSION with labeling that style "ita"? She is miss congeniality as far as I am concerned. She is who I would want to be friends with. She probably wouldn't be judgmental to someone joining. She would be introducing the new person to everyone. She would bond quickly to the newbie and help her develop armor so that way the newbie can freely express themselves how they wanted to do lolita and not how these other people THINK the new person should be doing lolita. If the new person eventually falls into a category, cool, but if she doesn't - also cool.
I can't even tell what makes that girl "ita" to you. Does she think that outfit is ita? I think that outfit is cute. I think she is cute. I like that she likes cats and I like that I can tell that. I like that she dares to be different in a world that wants to judge her. And Lolitas are different but often they care way too much about what the other lolitas say to them or about them.
Maybe someday she will get that Enchantilly cat dress she has been dreaming of and continue to be different. She doesn't care that their dresses are 100% polyester. She wants that cute cat print. Or maybe she would look cute with those ears in Dream of Lolita Alice and Black Cat Print (it is also cheaper and 100% cotton). She can wear what she wants. Whatever she feels cute in. :)
Whatever you think, the fashion still has it's rules. If you don't follow them, you're doing it wrong, and you must face it. By the way, this girl was only playing the role of "ita", they dressed her as ridiculously as possible for comedic purpose. She actually has a very decent wardrobe, this shitty replica that she's wearing is not a part of it.
I have a question for the more experienced lolita out there. I am very new to lolita, and I am trying really hard to avoid the "Ita" faze. Are replicas ok? I want to purchase a replica of angelic pretty's castle mirage, but I don't know the lolita rules regarding them. Help would be greatly appreciated.
As a designer, I'll put it to you like this: Imagine you are an inventor. You and your very small team of assistants spend years developing your invention, working very hard to make it well. Finally, you are able to put it out on the market. Now imagine some random factory started putting out your product also, obviously without your permission. What's more, their product is cheaper, making it more attractive to consumers who cut corners. You and your team did all that hard work only for someone to come along and steal your work and your profits. Think about it from that perspective. Besides, there are tons of nice dresses that are cheaper and good quality. Don't be obsessed with brand. That'll be your first mistake.
+mystuffedpanda * That is okay, you can think whatever you want. Personally, I believe that no one should be dictated by social norms. As long as they aren't doing anything illegal I don't care how they dress or what's their hobby.
+Marcel Edel Steampunk is not considered a substyle of lolita, rather it is a niche way of accessorizing or styling. It is not as popular because a) steampunk is not as popular in Japan where many brands are located and b) it can easily become costumey in a bad way. Occasionally there is some crossover due to both styles having strong victorian influence, but they are fundamentally different. Regardless, steampunk lolita is one of my favorite things to see when done well!
+Alicornz RBLX No. But there are many ocean or sailor themed prints that can be styled in mermaid inspired ways. Look up Angelic Pretty's Dream Marine and Marine Kingdom if you want to see examples of this.
Did they say BROlita for the one in the red dress, I don't know, was it a boy or girl, IT because I have no idea if boy or girl sounded like a girl and then started to sound boyish and then I was like I HAVE NO IDEA
+Selmoness Lolita is all about challenging gender stereotypes! The Kawaii movement (which is where lolita came from) started as a protest to the typical female role of getting married/becoming a housewife. It allowed young japanese girls to express themselves while rejecting society's need to objectify and sexualize them.
+Beba Rivera yeah I looked at a couple and some look a little small at least I heard the dress should be about knee length or longer @[email protected] I guess they have some good stuff though it's just trying to figure out what is good from what isn't
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